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Re: The Artists Help Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:16 pm
by ~ t r o u b l e ~
Thank you both for the suggestions!
I will definitely be working on the mouth more! Its always been a point of concern in my drawings, but I wasn't sure if it were just my imagination or something that really did need work!
The coat flaps on the reference were supposed to be uneven so I went with it, even if they looked odd to me XD

Re: The Artists Help Thread

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:40 am
by ιηƒιηιтє.
    Hey there, trouble, I hope it's alright if I add my own two cents in (even with the fact that I'm late to the game); your art is fabulous, and I absolutely love that dragon!!!

    Silverhart mentioned a "flatness" to the piece; I think one of the biggest things that is adding to the "flatness" of your piece is the fact that the head seems to be tilted up on a two-dimensional plane, thus rendering it a bit flat in a three dimensional setting. It's a bit hard explaining it in words, so here's a redline showing what I mean (I hope it's okay that I did redline it):
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    Here's a tutorial that probably also explains it better than my chickenscratch, haha.

    A couple of other small things that might be skewing the perception of the drawing could be the nose, as the point of the nose seems to be in slightly a different direction in proportion to the face, and the neck, which might be lacking a slight bit of curvature and thus unfortunately adding to the "flat" feel of the piece. :)

    Overall, I think it's really, really nice, especially without references! I love your style, it's so shiny and vibrant; I absolutely adore all the colours that you use!!! :D

Re: The Artists Help Thread

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:54 am
by Ashenjay
wow infinite that's a really great sketch! I always had trouble drawing uptilted heads...and well now I think I get it xD <3

Re: The Artists Help Thread

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:13 pm
by ιηƒιηιтє.
Ashenjay wrote:
wow infinite that's a really great sketch! I always had trouble drawing uptilted heads...and well now I think I get it xD <3


    I'm very glad I was able to help! :D The human body really is a doozy @A@

Re: The Artists Help Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:02 am
by Ashenjay
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Hi everyone!
Recently I'm trying to draw people in various positions (rather than standing upright)
To me this looks okay (except for the foot and left hand) but I'm not sure if the proportions are correct. Is there a way to easily check if things aren't off?

Re: The Artists Help Thread

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:53 pm
by Silverhart
Wow! That's so awesome Ashenjay! I think it looks great! That sort of pose is really hard to get the proportions of. Normally you would compare various parts of the body to check the proportions, but since most of the body is blocked from view or incredibly foreshortened I don't think that method would really help. If you used a photo reference you could use that to double check proportions. If you didn't use a reference then you'll just have to wing it. Just looking at it, it's very pleasing, and nothing leaps out at me as wrong, so I'd think all the proportions are alright.

Both of the feet need work of course, but personally I wouldn't know how to fix them without a reference. Feet are notoriously tricky, and that angle is really throwing me off. XD I think their size is fine, it's just the angle of both feet don't really match the angle of the ankles. The feet should be going away from the viewer, which neither appear to be doing.

But otherwise it looks so awesome! Better then I could do if I'm being honest. ^^

Re: The Artists Help Thread

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:07 am
by ιηƒιηιтє.
    Hey there, Ashenjay! I love your art style, and that lighting is incredible!

    As Silverhart mentioned, it's always a bit hard to work on proportion when figures are seen from this sort of PoV. Something that I did notice is that your hip proportion, when scaled, seems to lack a bit of the foreshortening needed. c: The clothing covers it somewhat, but the general fall of the clothing shows this:

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    I roughly drew a way to fix that on the right; straight lines are great for perspective, but only really at the beginning of your art piece when you're roughly sketching out the pose. Otherwise, you lose some of the three dimensionality of the piece and it begins to look flat. Another tactic I've seen people use is rings, or concentric circles, but that wouldn't work too well for this piece, I'm afraid.

    As for the feet; I'm no expert either and I wasn't able to look up a reference, but I do know a cheat to be able to draw things from that sort of backwards perspective:

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    When it comes to draw things backwards, a thing you can do is flip it, erase the guidelines, and redraw it. Because I was going a bit detailed into the toes and the like, you can also flip those as well to get your desired pose. (It's been edited and tilted a bit, but you get the idea!) Something I would like to add as you seemed to be attempting to do a ninety degree or less on the right foot, is that oftentimes when people are in that position and relaxed, not tense, most of the bottom sole of their foot is visible anyways, as the foot rests ~140 degree angle instead of a ninety when it's tense. ^^

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    I'm real sorry if this has any redundant information, and the sketchy style (I started with the wrong brush and was too lazy xP) but I hope it helped! ^^

    //edit: If you search "casual laying on stomach", it actually pulls up a bunch of references for that sort of pose, in case you need them in the future. cx

Re: The Artists Help Thread

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:01 am
by Ashenjay
oh wow thank you so much silver and infinite! you guys are so helpful ; v;
lots of great information too, like the angle feet rest in, keywords, foreshortening, etc... I'll definitely try to keep all of those in mind in the future, thank you so much <3 <3 ><
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